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spaniel Member Joined: 16 Oct 2004 No. of posts: 25 View other posts by spaniel |
Posted: 04 Feb 2005 I had a very interesting chat with a local chap who had witnessed last year a mass slaughter of toads on this section of road. The details are a little thin on the ground but I am due to talk with him again soon and get the grid ref and more details. I am guessing that the time is at a time of spawning and are returning ? Would this mass death of the toads have any knock on effect to other speices and if so what range are we talking about I am no toad expert so this is only a guess......any help or answers or groups that might pay for signs etc. The local council contact I have is looking into what their highways can do to help. So please post away My mission this year is to save these toads from the roads
Ian |
Gemma Fairchild Krag Committee Joined: 14 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 193 View other posts by Gemma Fairchild |
Posted: 04 Feb 2005 Ian, some arg groups have toad crossing coordinators, your local arg will be listed here: http://www.froglife.org/HGBI/ARGs.htm If there is no group in your area you could contact Froglife for further advice about setting up a toad patrol: ----RAUK e-Forum---- |
justin Member Joined: 26 Feb 2004 No. of posts: 5 View other posts by justin |
Posted: 04 Feb 2005 hi ian i had the same sort of thing last year with toads falling down drains that were not covered i contacted froglife and suffolk wildlife they were disgusting and never offered much help at all and basically asked me to cover the drain holes i feel these so called wildlife trusts just do what the public see it is terrible cheers justin |
spaniel Member Joined: 16 Oct 2004 No. of posts: 25 View other posts by spaniel |
Posted: 04 Feb 2005 Thanks Gemma. I am sorry that you had such a bad deal Justin, I can imagine the frustration you must have felt. With the problem of these toads I am due to speak with our local wildlife trust next week, but I know the biodiversty officer would be very keen to help and get involved. So fingers crossed we can sort it out and prevent the mass loss.
Ian |
Matt Harris Senior Member Joined: 03 Jun 2003 No. of posts: 196 View other posts by Matt Harris |
Posted: 14 Feb 2005 Toads crossing road in Caerleon, south wales, last few days. Approx 200 casualties in one night reported by locals. Gwent Amphibian and Reptile Group (GARG) |
TVFrog Member Joined: 18 Feb 2004 No. of posts: 31 View other posts by TVFrog |
Posted: 15 Feb 2005 This is terrible - I am really suprised that there was any Toad movement over the weekend - after Friday the temperatures dropped - I was in the Shropshire/Welsh borders at the weekend and it was freezing. Have the local council not made past provision for toad migrations? M. |
Matt Harris Senior Member Joined: 03 Jun 2003 No. of posts: 196 View other posts by Matt Harris |
Posted: 15 Feb 2005 I think very few Local Authorities make provision for toad crossings - as in this case it is usually done by volunteers. The Council's biodiversity officer is on the case though, so for next year we might get this and other sites registered as toad crossings, in which case we can put up road signs etc. Gwent Amphibian and Reptile Group (GARG) |
GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 15 Feb 2005 Our nearest toad pond is due to become a car park. Apparently, the area is of low ecological value. I can't get permission to survey the area despite the fact that it is managed by the local wildlife trust (owned by the local authority) (ggggrrrrrrrrr). I would estimate an adult toad population in the hundreds if not thousands from larva observed last year... I doubt our local authority will be too worried if a few toads are squashed on the bypass this year. :0( I suspect the area is also good for viviparous lizards and grass snakes too, donÆt ya just love Essex!!!!!!!! I identified GCN eggs within spitting distance of this pond last year, hey and guess what the developer refuses to believe they are there and the ecological report on the toad pond states GCN have not be recorded in the area (I guess nobody bothered to look then)à.. Anyway IÆm off to the local nature reserve to look for adder, the chief honcho hasn't responded to requests for permission to survey there this year either (despite the fact I confirmed a good population was present last year), makes one wonder what on earth is going on.
Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
RICHIE Member Joined: 18 Feb 2005 No. of posts: 4 View other posts by RICHIE |
Posted: 19 Feb 2005 Dear Ian.The council in my neck of the woods,Mansfield Notts is very slow to help wildlife in any way. Local wildlife trusts and groundwork projects may be willing to help.They may provide signs and crossing points for your local toads. BULLDOG |
spaniel Member Joined: 16 Oct 2004 No. of posts: 25 View other posts by spaniel |
Posted: 19 Feb 2005 Well since I first posted I have made some headway. The local council is now aware of the toads, and are trying to tap the highways dept for some money for signs etc. Contacted froglife and they explained about the road registration scheme that they have run for a number of years. The local wildlife trust is setting up a R and A group in the next month or so and want to get involved. I guess that we are running out of time. matt posted that toads crossing in south wales, Is the normal time now or will it need to warm up alittle on the nights first, as we have had only cold nights.
Ian
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Chris Monk Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2004 No. of posts: 157 View other posts by Chris Monk |
Posted: 19 Feb 2005 Ian It depends where you are in the country, as frogs and toads start back to their breeding ponds much earlier in the south west than they do in the north east. Most toads move on mild damp evenings and cold weather puts them off and they stay put. So there might still be time to get things organised if it is done quickly. The wildlife trust might not help with organising volunteers to run toad road crossing rescues/patrols as several have pulled out because of worries about insurance risks. Here in Derbyshire the Wildlife Trust set up the Toad Save group about 1990 (now the Amphibian & Reptile Group) but pulled out of having anything to do with toad crossings two years ago. We now have to organise the toad patrols on our crossing sites as (groups of) private individuals.The local council highways division will tell us where we can install toad road signs but won't buy any or put them up for us. Our toads usually start moving in March although cold dry weather may put them off till April. A paper by Arnold Cooke in the recent British Herpetological Society bulletin, suggests that high road casualties could be a significant factor in toad population declines in ponds in vulnerable locations. Chris Monk Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group www.derbyshirearg.co.uk |
RICHIE Member Joined: 18 Feb 2005 No. of posts: 4 View other posts by RICHIE |
Posted: 19 Feb 2005 Dear Chris. Is there any group in the Mansfield area that are involved in Amphibians and Reptiles? No one I know in the area seems to have any info on this subject. BULLDOG |
Chris Monk Senior Member Joined: 21 Apr 2004 No. of posts: 157 View other posts by Chris Monk |
Posted: 20 Feb 2005 Richie I do not know of any group in the Mansfield area that is involved in Amphibians and Reptiles. Most of the information in Notts comes from Shelia Wright at the Nottingham Natural History Museum at Wollaton Hall. She and two others published a book last year on the distribution & conservation in Notts of reptiles and amphibians (Frogs and Friends ú7.50 from the Museum). All three are also members of the Notts Wildlife Trust, so they might know if there are any groups in your part of the county. The phone number at the museum is 01159 153905 if you want to contact her. Derbyshire Amphibian & Reptile Group www.derbyshirearg.co.uk |
RICHIE Member Joined: 18 Feb 2005 No. of posts: 4 View other posts by RICHIE |
Posted: 21 Feb 2005 Thanks for the help Chris. I will make contact wiTH THE Natural History Museum.As for good spots to watch in the local area I will keep looking. thanks. Richie BULLDOG |
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