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Vicar
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Posted: 04 Jun 2006

Does anybody happen to know which species this is ?

Found on dry heath on Surrey/Hants borders. A noticably large spider, which looks a bit like some type of Dolomedes, but doesn't quite match up from the books I have.

 


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Wolfgang Wuster
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Posted: 04 Jun 2006
I'm no expert, but it looks a bit like Pisaura mirabilis to me. Having said that, I tend to think of that one as a woodland spider...

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Posted: 04 Jun 2006

hi Steve looking at my book Wolfgang is spot on it is found in hedgerows woodland and grassland when it sits still the two front legs either side of its body face forward but are together if you see what i mean

the legs on the right of your pic will give you an idear

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Posted: 04 Jun 2006

Cheers guys,

Looks like a good ID to me. Unfortunately the pictures of it in Roberts don't look much like the one I saw, but given the name and a quick web-search, I'm convinced it is a Nursery-web spider.

Many thanks.


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Posted: 04 Jun 2006

Another one I'm afraid. Watched an interesting fight between what I think maybe a Pardosa pullata, and a pack of water boatmen, between one and four at any time.

Interestingly, the spider easily fought off the attacks, and made it to dry land. Only to then walk back across the water !


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David Bird
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Posted: 06 Jun 2006
Pisaura is often found on European Gorse in Dorset.
I find the pictures in Roberts never look anything like the live specimen, I have always found Jones to be slightly better with photographs.
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Morpheus
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Posted: 30 Jul 2006
The top one is definatly a nursary web spider wich is a very attractive spieces which comes in many diferent colours but always has the yellow stripe on the thorax while the bottom one appaers to be some sort of wolf spider
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Posted: 09 Jun 2008
I'm lucky enough to have Pisaura mirabilis in my back garden.  I'm a bit of a British spider fan!
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Posted: 09 Jun 2008
Talking about spideres has anyone seen many Argiopes lately.
They seem to have come from nowhere a few years back and then increased numbers each year. Often seen on garden fences around poole etc.
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Posted: 09 Jun 2008

We don't get them this far North (Manchester) as far as I'm aware, but a Dutch friend of mine brought me one from the Netherlands last year.  Lovely. 

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Posted: 09 Jun 2008

While we're on spiders.... I was reading through another thread on this forum, regarding the severity of British spider bites.

This series of pictures, taken over a 72 hour period, is the result of a bite from Amourobious similis.  Not life threatening, but quite nasty.


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LushLulu85
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Posted: 25 Jul 2008

ouch! that looked like it hurt.

When and where was it you recieved the bite.


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Posted: 26 Jul 2008

It was a couple of years ago... in my shed!  It wasn't especially painful.

Welcome to RAUK, Lou.  Good to have you here.


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Posted: 26 Jul 2008
I'm talking right off the top of my head here, but isn't there a type of British spider which is capable of inflicting nasty bites, but rarely does so because it is mostly found in the countryside and seldom encountered. 

However, the species comes into houses on a regular basis in the USA, where it has a reputation as a dangerous species.  I believe I read that. although it's a kind of house spider, it tends not to come inside in the uk as the other species of house spider we have are larger and aggressive towards it, so it cannot get established.

Anyone got any idea what I'm on about?  Is this what bit you, James?

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Posted: 26 Jul 2008

The spider that bit me was Amaurobius similis, which is really common in sheds, out-houses, garages etc.

The spider you're talking about might be Scotophaeus blackwalli, sometimes called the 'Mouse Spider'.  I believe it has a pretty nasty bite.


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Posted: 26 Jul 2008
Thanks James,

I decided not to be so lazy and do my own research!  The spider I was trying to remember the name of is Tegeneria Agrestis, or Hobo Spider.

Anyone had a run in with one of these in the bathroom?



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Posted: 26 Jul 2008

I've never heard of any Tegenaria having a bad bite though, Rick?  In fact I've never known one to bite.  Interesting to hear the Americans consider it dangerous.... off I go a-Googling!

 

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Peter
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Posted: 26 Jul 2008

That is some bite!  

On the subject of British spiders, last Monday evening I saw an adult Dolomedes plantarius with an egg sack at a local natrix site near Neath, South Wales.

I am not prone to exagerration, but this was easily the largest spider that i have encountered in GB.  It`s legs looked to be easily 3mm thick.  If somebody had discribed it to me, I would have had trouble believing it.    Very similar markings to the original animal posted by the thread starter, but obviously not the same species.

 

It was an interesting walk that evening,  whilst sitting on the canal bank, I noticed a natrix swimming straight towards me totally unaware of my presence.  It was almost 7pm but there was still plenty of sunshine for when it hauled out.





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Posted: 26 Jul 2008
[QUOTE=st rick]I'm talking right off the top of my head here, but isn't there a type of British spider which is capable of inflicting nasty bites, but rarely does so because it is mostly found in the countryside and seldom encountered. 
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Rick,
     Are you referring to a species of Tube-Web spider?  They have huge fangs for a British species.  I've only managed to see one of those once but that was by pure luck. 

One spider that can be capable of inflicting a nasty bite is the False Widow Spider, Steatoda nobilis, which got some 'hype' in at least one national paper a while back.    One of the times I saw one of those was ironically on a herping session(to put a reptile connection in) when it was on the roofrack of my car.

Sorry if I've waffled off topic.

James: Is that a Wasp Spider?

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