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will
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Posted: 23 Jun 2009
Ok, so it's not photography but I couldn't figure out where to put this question:

Can anyone suggest if there is a better option than Maglite-type torches for amphibian survey work ?  I'm not talking about those big jobs that run off car batteries and blind the animals in the pond, but small 2,3,4 cell cylindrical type torches with ability to focus to a fine point, good for penetrating fairly turbid water but not alerting newts etc a few metres away that you're surveying the pond.  What about the LED type ones ?  What do people use ?  I've been using Maglites for a fair few years now and want to know if there's a new toy available !

Cheers

Will

Vicar
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Posted: 23 Jun 2009
YES

Fenix LD20 is awesome. They're pricey, but worth every penny.
They use 2xAA rechargeable batteries. I keep a pair in the torch and a pair on charge and swap every night. I suggest you use Hama 2700mAh batteries as they are the only make which hold their charge well over extended periods.

I bought it as a back-up torch, but have found myself using it for pond survey too, as the light colour is more effective at penetrating turbid water than the Clulite, and as it's 100% waterproof you can even hold it underwater to prevent blinding reflections.

Best buy I've done in years!


Steve Langham - Chairman    
Surrey Amphibian & Reptile Group (SARG).
will
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Posted: 24 Jun 2009
Thanks Steve - sounds just the job
Baby Sue
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Posted: 23 Feb 2011

Oldies?!

I want to buy a back-up torch incase I smash mine whilst out frogging but dunno where to get it from. The one I have now ainĂt nothinĂ special to look at, donĂt think it cost much, (itĂs probably from the 60s and was Bad DadĂs), it runs off 2 big cylindrical batteries which last all frogging season and itĂs perfect for my frogging as it shines light a long distance away and pin points it to one spot which is exactly what I need so I want something the same.

Uncle Derek bought me one with AA batteries for about a fiver from Aldi once but that was sh*t. OK for in the house in a power cut but useless for going out frogging cos it didnĂt light up driveways in the distance. I need it to light stuff about 10-15 meters away. I donĂt wanna spend heaps on a super duper one but yet I doubt thereĂs any point me getting one from the pound shop or B&M cos I figured theyĂd not be what IĂm after. Where can I get what I want from? I donĂt wanna buy something and try it, find out it isnĂt good enough for what I want and try and get a refund. Also I donĂt shop online so which shops/stores would I get it from? Anyone got advice please?


I wanted presents from lots of you. Snot fair that Ben Rigsby was the only one to send me Xmas & birthday presents.
tim-f
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Posted: 23 Feb 2011
Hi Will and Sue.

I'm a scuba diver and (ex-) caver and so have waterproof torches, which may well be useful for shining underwater on amphibians, so you don't get reflections from the water surface.  As back-up lights for both pursuits I use Underwater Kinetics mini-Q40s, which now come with LED bulbs.  They run off 4 AAs, but there are plenty of larger models by UK or similar firms (Princeton Tec etc).

There are plenty of places that sell these on-line, so you can check prices.  Seems they're ˙40 for the LED version or ˙24 for incandescent bulb.

Just in case you get carried away, be aware that larger (expensive!) diving torches get hot, so can only be used underwater.

Hope this helps.

Tim.



Baby Sue
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Posted: 24 Feb 2011

Thanks for trying but it donĂt help, I donĂt wanna go diving or caving. WhatĂs the difference between LED versions and incandescent bulbs anyway? DonĂt understand what that means, I'm only a kid. I ainĂt shopping online so what shops sell them? Argos? What about Curries and Comet? Where do you get torches from cos I donĂt know? Will Morrisons have owt decent in their DIY isle? Where can I get what I want from? I want a back-up torch damn it. Just something fairly cheap like ˙10 or ˙15, one that donĂt go through batteries like nobodies business (I was thinking one that runs off two big cylindrical batteries would be better like my other old one which which works fine  ), and one where in 10 or 20 years time I can go and get a replacement bulb without being told they no longer make them.

Hang on, where do you get replacement bulbs from? Is that B&Q or the market? Can you get torches in a market? Do they sell decent torches in B&Q? Come on, lots of you are men on here, men should know this kind of stuff. IĂm a girl, IĂm young, I donĂt hang around tool shops or nothinĂ, I know the best places to get cheap chocolate from and Pringles and Seabrook crisps on offer but as for bulbs and torches I ainĂt a clue.   I need educating.


I wanted presents from lots of you. Snot fair that Ben Rigsby was the only one to send me Xmas & birthday presents.
tim-f
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Posted: 24 Feb 2011
Hello Sue,

Sorry if my post wasn't helpful.

Have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcEzVqbMF1M

It would be an ideal back-up, due to its low cost and very low battery consumption.

Regards,

Tim.



Scale
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011
Flippin' heck the Fenix LD20 looks like it was designed to
seduce the boys, doesn't it?
Baby Sue
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011

[QUOTE=tim-f]Hello Sue,

Sorry if my post wasn't helpful.

Have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcEzVqbMF1M

It would be an ideal back-up, due to its low cost and very low battery consumption.

Regards,

Tim.


[/QUOTE]

No it wouldnĂt.


I wanted presents from lots of you. Snot fair that Ben Rigsby was the only one to send me Xmas & birthday presents.
AndyS
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Posted: 25 Feb 2011
Baby Sue
Argos do a range of torches, some waterproof, some windup or for when your Frogging one's that sit on your head, leaving both hands free for catching

Argos Head Torch

that one's a bit more than you want to pay, but look at the others

Baby Sue
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Posted: 28 Feb 2011

Thanks Andy. I wouldnĂt dare wear a head torch cos IĂd look a real tw*t. Cars go past all the time and people walk past me and I get funny looks and thereĂs teenagers that go past. Thankfully where I go frogging the teenagers are far less chavy than in other parts of Keighley so I donĂt tend to get the verbal abuse and humiliation that I get on my walk up to work past the horrible school kids but all the same IĂd like to not look a total fool in case I get picked on whilst out frogging. If I wore a head torch IĂd feel stupid and be lit up and stand out and feel ashamed. A hand held torch is better and at the mo I carry round it round in my pocket usually.

Bad Dad phoned on Friday and said heĂs dug out two torches he donĂt use that I can have, one takes 4 AA batteries which might be good as I can use my rechargeable batteries that I already have, and the other donĂt have a battery in it and he told me to look at battery prices whilst at Skipton market on Saturday. It takes big batteries, about 10cm x 6cm x 5cm ish, I found them for ˙2 but then I went into the Yorkshire Trading Company which is a bargain store in Skipton and they did big torches for ˙5 with the same kind of battery included. Kind of big shaped like this one but look far more basic and cheap.

ThatĂs the shape Bad DadĂs gonna give me, he sayĂs itĂll work for what I want. I probably should have bought a battery whilst I was there, should have them somewhere in my town too though I suppose. But wonĂt get the torches for a while anyway cos Bad Dad lives a million miles away so thereĂs no hurry for a battery.

PS. AinĂt ArgosĂ torches a bit pricey?   Smaller torches in the Yorkshire Trading Company were ˙2 or ˙3, doubt there's much difference in light quality.


I wanted presents from lots of you. Snot fair that Ben Rigsby was the only one to send me Xmas & birthday presents.

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